Saturday, March 13, 2010

Linda and Joe - Your Ethical Councilors

Councilors Pereira and Camara have been cleared after a state ethics inquiry. The investigation stemmed from an incident on January 5th when WSAR host Mike Herren contacted the FRPD over concerns for the well being of his child. When the police responded, they found the councilors with Herren and felt that they were trying to influence them.

The FRPD referred the matter to the State's Ethic Commission, which apparently has cleared the two councilors of any wrongdoing.

Here's the thing, the opinion of the commission doesn't matter. If YOU are a city councilor and you involve yourself in someone's personal situation, especially in a matter that involves the police you are guilty, if not of being unethical, than of giving the PERCEPTION of being unethical.

Honestly how stupid are these two? They say they were simply responding to a friend in need but did they for MINUTE think about how this would appear to ANYONE? Really did it occur to them that the police MIGHT feel that there was some political pressure being exerted? Honestly I have a tough time believing that there wasn't.

And that's the point, despite what an ethics commission has said these two have put themselves in a position that has betrayed the public trust.

I'm disappointed that the state's ethic commission didn't see at least a need to remind these two councilors to avoid potential conflicts of interest. I'm also disappointed that in the aftermath of all this both councilors would pretty much accuse an officer of lying and that Councilor Pereira would charge that this was something personal. To make such statements publicly undermines the integrity of our police force. As elected officials they should be using better judgment, but then again if they had done that in the first place this never would have happened.

94 comments:

Faye Musselman said...

Nice recap, Lefty. I concur with your comments. Specifically, these elected officials, while NOT acting in capacity of their office nor even using their political position, should have been cognizant of appearances,i.e., how their intervention would be perceived. Perception, after all, is one's own reality. Throughout history perception has trumped truth - until scientific fact altered perceptions. Erroneous perceptions of one's character or intent is common today, magnified to the multitudes by our digital age. As to this particular incident, the subject of their good intentions is, himself, subject to repeated controversy.

Frankly, I don't see any wrong-doing on their parts. Stupidity may be rampant but is not yet, alas,a criminal offense. Neither is it limited to race, creed, color, political affiliation or profession.

Until a Fall River elected official admits to being transgendered, groping staffers, infidelity within their marriage or any number of current salient accusations which keep our news media feeding the salivating public, I don't think Joe Camara or Linda Pereira should lose any sleep.

Anonymous said...

Good article,very true.

Anonymous said...

Keep in mind, Lefty, that these two were NOT cleared by the investigation, the commission just chose not to pursue it further, most likely because they have more important things to worry about. Linda and Joe did not get off on this one, they just got lucky.

reality check said...

Faye, please share your scientific fact that will alter the erroneous opinion of what many people perceive as reality.

There is also a difference between someone cheating on their spouse,and city councilors interfering with a police investigation. One is immoral, the other is illegal.

Lefty said...

Anon 12:57,

You're right! Although that is the wording the Herald used.

There is a lot about this that bothers me, like Linda and Joe accusing the officers involved of lying and having a personal vendetta. However the wording of the letter Linda got bothers me the most:

"Relying on what you told us, we are satisfied that this matter does not require any further action on our part. Thank you for your cooperation.”

What does that mean RELYING on what you us? It makes me seriously doubt the integrity of 'cursory inquiry'.

Faye Musselman said...

To Reality check: You are inaccurately paraphrasing what I said. I said: "Throughout history perception has trumped truth - until scientific fact altered perceptions."

Without addressing distinctions between belief systems verus social perception structures, as an example people perceived the earth to be flat until Aristotle (around 350 BC) proved scientifically it was round via the rising and lowering of constellations.

With regard to medicine, people were perceived to have ailments and maladies misdiagnosed and wrongly treated until scientific discovery proved otherwise.

If a tree falls in the forest and you aren't there to hear it, does it make a sound? If the tree falls on a lizard and the insect in the tree hears it, is the lizard dead? Dissection would prove, scientifically, if the lizard is dead. Would that alter the insect's perception? Probably not, considering the cranial capacity of the insect.

We could do this schtick all day but it's better dialoged in a bar with a frosty brew.

(this is my 2nd response, don't think the first one took...just my perception...if it appears, it will alter my reality)

Anonymous said...

This scary debacle needs to be remembered next election. I for one will rehash so these two strongarms are tossed.

Anonymous said...

Eric Poulin was in the paper again. He still can't pay his own mortgage.

Anonymous said...

Linda Pereira
Joe Camara
Mike Herren

Doing a good job for the city?

Anonymous said...

I like that I can watch live now and say what you will, Pereira and Camara are doing a good job. So is Mike Lund. I would say that Kilby and Poulin are doing a very good job. Leo is Leo, not impressive when I watch on tv but I'm sure he is doing the behind the scenes stuff that he is known for. Casey and Bigelow are tough to watch, nice people but not contributing a lot, when they speak it always sounds awkward and like they are speaking just to speak.

Herren? He's not on the council, why is he relevant when the topic of the blog is about councilors? I have heard him a few times, he sounds like a wannabe politician/Monday morning quarterback, I think he should run in the next election and we can all see how he performs. But his radio show is entertaining at times although it's very noticeable that he carefully selects who he has on as guests with him, no one too intelligent as he probably doesn't want to be too easily outshined. And where did Ryan go? He was the brain of the operations, did he get sick of Herren?

Anonymous said...

Pereira and Camara yes but Herren no.

Anonymous said...

Please leave Ryan Phelan out of any discussions, he is a good and intelligent person and deserves the opportunity to move on with his life.

Anonymous said...

Phelan is working for Mike Rodrigues now from what I hear. Does anyone know the date of the election for State Senate?

I would like to know when the primary is and when the final is, I'm guessing September and November but I don't know the exact days. I think this blog should start promoting those dates and trying to get the vote out.

Lefty should look at some of the heated races that are coming up because it's basically April already and if this thing is going to happen in September I still know nothing about any of the people in the race. There was so much about Will Flanagan and Cathy Ann Viveiros a year ago but nothing so far about the State Senate and the Rep races.

Anonymous said...

The race between George Jacome and Dave Dennis for Mike Rodrigues' seat is going to be tough to call.

Anonymous said...

Faye, RealityCheck didn't misunderstand you or inaccurately paraphrase what you said. You just didn't get the poke.

The councilors in question interfered with a police investigation. The letter Linda received showed us all just how corrupt the system here is---that they actually wrote that because they simply believe Linda's story and are therefore stopping the investigation proves my point.

If we are all to be believed as wholly by someone who is investigating us, there would be no one convicted of anything.

This was not an investigation. It was a whitewash. How typical of Fall River.

Anonymous said...

Yes the Rep race with Dennis and Jacome will be interesting but I think Dennis takes it. Dennis has been more active in the community the last few years. It's the Senate race that will be tough to call. I don't think Rodrigues is the leader like some people think, I think Coogan and Mitchell will be in a fight for it with maybe Lawless too and Rodrigues will fall in between there somewhere.

Anonymous said...

Mitchell has been out of politics for a while and I don't think he is remembered as the best mayor, although the title of the worst will probably go to Bob-O Correia.

Coogan is known in Fall River for his role as Prez of the firefighter's union and Lawless for his work on LNG. Rodrigues is of course known for his role in ticket scalping scandals, Speaker of the House indictments and dodging tax laws he passed to get himself some booze. Oh yeah and he has an annual booze cruise for other state reps down in Westport. It's quite the record!

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Anonymous said...

Herren can only match wits with the witless which is why he plasters the dumbest elected officials in town all over his show, LNG Leo, Pat Casey and anyone else that wants to help him with his "police issues." LMAO

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Anonymous said...

Best of luck Ryan. As long as you are no longer affiliated with herren your future's so bright you gotta wear shades!

Anonymous said...

I don't believe that Ryan actually posted that reply....first of all, I think Ryan would know how to spell the word anonymous.

Anonymous said...

Depends on how many hours he has been warming a barstool.

Anonymous said...

I'm wondering what the relationship is between Herren and his former co host "Fast Eddie" Garcia..the two were on the air together earlier this week..didn't Garcia cause a major public stink for the Karams when his letter regarding Herren's behavior towards him was leaked to the Herald News via the departed Keri Rodrigues? Now the two are best of friends..must be the water in that place..

Anonymous said...

herren is clueless. he can't keep a co-host and i really think he has no idea why. and we all know he desperately needs someone to run the board and fill air time when his speech impedement or his emphesema flares. personally i really feel bad for the guy.

Anonymous said...

The show has suffered without Phelan. This idea of rotating co-hosts ala Regis and Kelly is not a good idea for the Hurricocaine. Big difference in having Anderson Cooper or Jeff Probst fill in, rather than the friends of Darth Vader's girlfriend. Really? Who are these girls that sit in on the show?

My fave is when the mouth breather will ask " Whats going on?". And the reply will be "Not much....".

Great answer for a radio TALK show.

It will not be long before this trainwreck is pulled from the air. Phelan was the glue of the show. It's a disaster without him.

Anonymous said...

HERREN AND PHELAN ARE LIKE BROTHERS ANYONE WHO THINKS THERE IS CONFLICT BETWEEN THEM HAS NO IDEA WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT. PHELAN IS NOW GOING OUT WITH HERRENS GIRLS BEST FRIEND THEY ARE ALWAYS TOGETHER.I ALSO FIND IT COM ICAL THAT ALL THE POSTERS ON THIS BLOG ARE STILL HOLDING THEIR BREATH WAITING FOR HERRENS SHOW TO FAIL BUT STILL LISTENING!!VERY STRANGE..HERRENS SHOW ISNT GOING ANYWHERE SO PEOPLE NEED TO TURN IT OFF OR GET OVER IT

Anonymous said...

Many of us listen because of the sheer comedy of what is going on the air at that hour..it isnt to be taken seriously on any level and I think most listeners know that..its just funny that a radio station that calls itself "legendary" has sunk to this low point..

Oh by the way..turn the caps lock off Mike..its called 'shouting' here in the world of the internet..

Anonymous said...

Right, i am sure his "best friend" ryan is thrilled that herren is throwing up his personal life on the blogs!

Anonymous said...

The reality of hurricanes radio show is that its hugely popular and businesss are spending money advertising on the radio show.Even his critics are apparently listening according to this blog.IF EVERYTHING they said about Herren on these blogs were true do you still think he would have a successful radio show and be able to bring a minor laegue sports franchise to the city?? Lets face it people love to hate and talk about Mike Herren.

Lefty said...

Enough please with the Mike Herren bashing.

Anonymous said...

Lefty,
With all due respect I see nothing on this blog that would qualify as "herren bashing". He CAPS here from time to time to promote a semi pro team. I have heard the people who he was begging to back the deal will not take a chance on his rep or work ethic. Big surprise!

Anonymous said...

HEY IM
TIRED OF THIS NONSENSE JUST BECAUSE I POST IN CAPS MAKES ME MIKE HERREN...CLOSE BUT NO CIGAR,BUT WHAT I REALLY WANT TO KNOW IS HOW THE LAST POSTER CAN COME ON THIS SITE AND JUST LIE..PLAIN OUT JUST LIE!! I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT HERREN HAS TURNED DOWN SOME VERY WELL ESTABLISHED INVESTORS FROM THE SOUTHCOAST..HE SAID HE WANTS TO KEEP IT A TIGHT CIRCLE.I KNOW WHAT I SAY IS TRUE BECAUSE I HAVE INTIMATE KNOWLEDGE THE OTHER HATERSJUST LIE OVER AND OVER AGAIN..CAN U IMAGINE SOMEONE WHO BRINGS A MINOR LEAGUE SPORTS FRANCHISE IS STILL HATED ON AND SLANDERED..WHAT A REPULSIVE ATTITUDE.

Anonymous said...

Wow, you all think this stuff is actually important, huh? haha I'm laughing, but I'm actually terrified for all of you. This is my first view of your 'forum,' and I can honestly say it will absolutely be my last. I thought the paparazzi and tabloid repoters were the most pathetic people on the planet, but you guys do the same thing, except you're obsessed with a radio talk show host from Fall River instead of real famous people. Wow. Hahaha.

Anonymous said...

Repulsive? OK,rally but you should brace yourself for the team that never was....LMAO












































p you may want to brace youtself for hte local team that never was

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Lefty said...

I think the comments I just deleted amount to Hurricane bashing.

I've had people IM me to tell me that Ryan and Herren don't get along and I've had comments saying their good friends.

Who do you believe?

It's easy for someone to say "Ryan told me" or whatever but how do I prove that? I can't, so those types of comments are really just asking to be deleted.

If Ryan wants to contact me and set the record straight, that's fine with me.

Otherwise all I can say is that I thought Ryan was a pretty good voice of reason, and I wish him well in his new endeavor.

Anonymous said...

You people are crazy..the Hurricane is the bomb and Jenny Rock n Roll is a great co host!!Dont hate appreciate!!

Anonymous said...

Hurricane isn't "the bomb" but he is a bomb... a ticking time bomb... he will blow up and self destruct... only a matter of time...

Anonymous said...

when ryan was still on i did listen if i was in the car. herren solo made me cringe. have not tuned in for his new co host but if she allows herself to be nicknamed jenny rock and roll? does the karam family have their head up their a**? sorry for the coarse speech, but wsar used to be much classier.

Anonymous said...

what did ryan do laugh?? you people are nuts ..ryan couldnt do that show alone not in a million yrs.please i know you hate the hurricane but do try to stay a bit objective

Anonymous said...

I think the point is that listeners liked and respected Ryan. I know I did. He impressed me as someone who is considered, articulate and mature. He was constantly confronted with daily doses of Herren's lunacy, and always seemed to find a way to distance himself from it while remaining in the conversation.

People listen to Mike Herren for the same reasons viewers watch Jerry Springer. How on earth is that something to be proud of? It reflects horribly on Fall River.

Listen, by now everyone should realize nothing phases Mike Herren when it comes to how his behavior is viewed by others. He's has no capacity for embarassment or shame. In that regard, he's a very strange man. Most people would abhor being the butt of jokes and do what they could to avoid it. Not Mike Herren. It never even enters his mind that he's an embarassing dolt.

He truly is a strange person.

Anonymous said...

HERREN THIS AND HERREN THAT ..ALL THE PEOPLE WHO DOG OUT THE HURRICANE ON THESE BLOGS CANT STOP TALKING ABOUT HIM THEY CALL HIM THIS OR THAT BUT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT HIM CONSTANTLY.I HAVE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE IT..I HAVE KNOWN MICHAEL FOR A LONG TIME AND BELIEVE ME HE DOESNT CARE ABOUT HIS INTERNET GOSSIP AND BASHING HES UED TO IT .PEOPLE HAVE BEEN OBSESSING ABOUT HIM FOR A LONG LONG TIME BUT IF YOU UNDERESTIMATE HIS INTELLIGENCE,HIS CAPABILITY,HIS COMPASSION, DO IT AT YOUR OWN PERIL

Anonymous said...

Herren this and Herren that, boy that Herren sure is fat, time to hit Herren with a wiffle ball bat, and when the candy all falls out, please don't eat it or you'll get the gout.

The words Herren and intelligent do not belong in the same sentence...

Anonymous said...

Let me assure you of Herrens intelligence.I went to school with Herren and he is most definately intelligent.I find it strange that a certain amount of the participants on this blog focus on the negative,i know when the teachers at my school needed money to take the freedom writers to Washington DC Herren came up big and raised thousands of dollars in one day.i also know he is a champion of positivity something this city needs badly..all of these folks who come on here and call him fat,dumb,lazy,stupid etc i ask them one question What have you ever done for your community??

Anonymous said...

Herren is "definately intelligent?" Perhaps you mean definitely? Sigh... Maybe Mr. Herren should have those that can spell out there defending him. Since he obviously didn't finish college let's see his grades from Durfee or are the rumors true? Was he allowed to graduate and promoted simply because of his basketball abilities? Hard to believe he could once play basketball given his current physical state...

Anonymous said...

HEY HERREN HATER YOU ARE SO MIS INFORMED...WHAT HAVE YOU EVER DONE TO DISTIGUISH YOURSELF??? HAVE YOU EVER BEEN A TEAM CAPTAIN?HAVE YOU EVER BEEN AN STATE CHAMPION? HAVE YOU EVER BEEN AN ALL AMERICAN??HAVE YOU EVER LEFT FALL RIVER ? HAVE YOU EVER BEEN NOMINATED FOR A POINT OF LIGHT FOR COMMUNITY SERVICE??HAVE YOU EVER STARTED A PROGRAM FOR AT RISK YOUTH WITH NO FUNDING?? HAVE YOU EVER CARIED THE OLYMPIC TORCH?? HAVE YOU EVER RUN A SUCCESSFUL NIGHT CLUB??? HAVE YOU EVER WORKED IN THE MOTION PICTURE INDUSTRY?HAVE YOU EVER RAISED 10,000 DOLLARS FOR CHARITY IN A SINGLE DAY?? HAVE YOU EVER STARTED A RADIO SHOW ON YOUR OWN AND SOLD ALL THE ADVERTISING AND WRITE ALL COMMERCIALS?? HAVE YOU EVER BEEN HOST OF NUNMBER ONE RANKED RADIO TALK SHOW?? HAVE YOU EVER PLAYED AT MADISON SQUARE GARDEN?? HAVE YOU EVER HAD A BOOK WRITTEN ABOUT YOU??? PLEASE JOKERS I COULD GO ON ALL DAYY ILL SEE MY MAN HURRICANE AT MIDNIGHT WE ARE PUTTING TOGETHER A MARKETING BROCHURE FOR MINOR LEAGUE BASKET BALL FRANCHISE?? OH YEAH HAVE YOU EVER OWNED A MINOR LEAGUE SPORTS FRANCHISE??? Have you ever done anything to help your city?? dont hate appreciate!!

Anonymous said...

Wow..sounds like herren has completley lost his mind.

Anonymous said...

Wow! Doesn't take much to push Herren over the edge huh? Herren must've ticked off a lot of people to constantly generate such negative responses but instead of Herren reading these types of forums and ranting and raving in ALL CAPS over every negative remark why doesn't he just reach out and make peace with those he has harmed like in a 12 step program or like on that show My Name is Earl?

Anonymous said...

YOU ARE HELPING HERREN WRITE A BROCHURE? YOU ALL BETTER INVEST IN SPELLCHECK!

JUST TO POINT OUT A FEW...
DISTIGUISH (DISTINGUISH)
AN (A) STATE CHAMPION?
CARIED (CARRIED)
WRITE (WROTE) ALL COMMERCIALS?? NUNMBER (NUMBER) ONE RANKED RADIO ALL DAYY (DAY) ILL (I'LL)
BASKET BALL (BASKETBALL)
dont (DON'T) hate appreciate!!

WHY IS THE LAST LINE NOT ALL CAPS LIKE THE REST? IF YOU ARE GOING TO BE BAD, AT LEAST BE CONSISTENTLY BAD!

Anonymous said...

How about we all stop talking about herren, understand?

Anonymous said...

or else what?

Anonymous said...

now we have a crack spell check crew amazing .whats the next criticism going to be?? you people are insanely jealous over herren.if you have a problem with him call him on the radio.you might not get through right away because it took me 20 mins the other day.lol ..eat your heart out haters!!

Anonymous said...

How has that list of supposed accomplishments helped the city of fall river???

There a many people working towards the betterment of the city and do raise 10k in one day, it's called a fundraiser.

Anonymous said...

lets see on hurricanes show today,..mayor flannagan,city councilors lund,kilby,and camara.,terry sullivanan head of sewers ..and people say his shoe isnt taking seriously yeah right

Anonymous said...

I don't take Herren's shoe seriously because it stinks and so does his show for that matter. LMAO. Only a politician with no sense of dignity or self respect would pander to the Hurricane. All of those mentioned have therefore lost my vote next election.

Anonymous said...

"lets see on hurricanes show today,..mayor flannagan,city councilors lund,kilby,and camara.,terry sullivanan head of sewers ..and people say his shoe isnt taking seriously yeah right"

Okay that comment is definitely from Mr. Herren. I know because he can't spell Mayor Flanagan correctly or Terry Sullivan. Herren has also been calling Sullivan head of sewers which I have found out after asking around is not his title at all. You just gave yourself away sir.

Anonymous said...

Why would Mayor Flanagan book himself on herren's show? Are all his current concerns genuine? Sounds like same Correia old boy rhetoric if he has chosen to align himself with wsar.

Anonymous said...

u people need to chill out with all these conspiracy theories..why wouldnt the mayor go on the hurricanes show??? where would u want him to go the herald news please.people need to get off that hurricane bashing you are embarassing yourself

Anonymous said...

I would ask that people stop commenting on the Hurricane only because for a big guy it sure seems like he is super sensitive and reads these comments religiously and responsds and I for one am tired of reading useless comments like HURRICANE IS THE BOMB YOU ALL DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT DON'T HATE APPRECIATE.

Listen, we all know that Herren only got the radio show because of playing basketball for Skippy who is a brother of Robert and Jim Karam the owners of WSAR. I'm not saying Hurricane is dumb or that the owners of WSAR are dumb but Herren isn't the brightest bulb and by extension either is anyone that hired him. It is well known that WSAR has been barely surviving for years and years so clearly there are no geniuses there.

If Hurricane ever got a better job at another radio station I would be shocked and admit I was wrong but we all know that would never happen and no one else would ever hire the guy. Stop hating on him and let him enjoy the rest of his 15 minutes of local fame, it's all he has. He is like Al "4 touchdowns in one game" Bundy except doesn't have a pretty red-headed wife and isn't a nice guy or likeable like Al.

So can we move on now? Don't hate, appreciate.

Anonymous said...

ANOTHER POSTER OBSESSING ABOUT HURRICANE..WHEN WILL IT END??

Anonymous said...

IT WILL END WHEN YOU STOP COMING ON AND POSTING IN ALL CAPS DEFENDING EACH AND EVERY COMMENT MIKEY. STOP BEING SO DARN SENSITIVE. EVERY COMMENT YOU POST IN DEFENSE DRAWS ANOTHER ONE. A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T LIKE YOU, LIVE WITH IT.

Anonymous said...

FOR THE 1000TH TIME IM NOT HURRICANE...HES MY BOY BUT IM NOT HIM.THEY MAY BE ALOT OF PEOPLE WHO DONT LIKE HIM BUT THEY LISTEN!!

Anonymous said...

RATINGS AT WSAR ARE STILL IN THE TOILET NO MATTER HOW YOU SPIN IT. IF THE RATINGS WERE SO HIGH IT WOULD BE AN EASY SELL TO PUSH ADVERTISING. SO HOW MANY ADVERTISING PEOPLE HAVE THEY GONE THROUGH DOWN THERE? THEY CAN'T KEEP THEM. BAD SIGN.

Anonymous said...

WSAR WAS UP 19% LAST YR IN A DOWN ECONOMY..DONT TALK IT IF YOU DONT KNOW IT!!

Anonymous said...

19 X 0 still equals 0
Sorry, not buying the false sales pitch.

Anonymous said...

Was Eric "bailout" Poulin's new job posted in the classifieds? The city has 20% unemployment. Shouldn't there have been a level playing field so that some of our long term unemployed citizens had the opportunity to enjoy the benefits of a state job? Not on "bailout's" watch. He gets to have 2 government jobs.

Paper says the public auction for Eric's condo is coming in early April. Maybe someone will buy it and the city can begin getting some taxes from that property because "bailout" sure isn't paying them.

He makes 16k from the city council alone. Most people in Fall River don't make even that much money. Now he gets another 33K from Rep Dave Sullivan and he still can't pay his mortgage? And "bailout" says that he made even more money in his prior job as a grant writer. Sounds like a poor money manager to me. At least "Ice and Dice" pay their bills!

Anonymous said...

Sorry, forgot to sign "my name," it's "Tom Rainsborough." LOL

Anonymous said...

Can we knock it off with the Ice and Dice crap already? How would you like to be called names? Loser

Anonymous said...

So it's Tom Rainsborough? You are no hero of the English Civil War, just another nasty commenter. And then you sign your posts with an LOL at the end like a child that texts all day with their friends? Whether you voted for Linda or Joe or not they have served this community for many years and don't deserve to have those nicknames perpetuated. Nasty columnists and commenters like you started them and keep perpetuating them. Put your name on the ballot and let's see how you do. Have a little bit more respect for the office they hold. You don't have to agree with them or vote for them, people like you can't debate the issues in an intelligent fashion or don't understand what it is to have an honest disagreement over something. You just result to namecalling because you can't debate or understand how someone doesn't think exactly like you do. It's pathetic and a lot of people are tired of all the negativity in this community.

If you like names so much I could call you a few but I'll refrain just so long as you know that I'll never respect or listen to any words that you type, I'll just skip over reading them if I see your name at the end.

Anonymous said...

anon 8:39am and 8:53am. I wrote the 8:40am comment yesterday, but not the 11:24pm comment. I certainly did not write lol. I was fast asleep at that time. Someone wrote that to mock me. The Poulin camp doesn't want to answer the questions.

If you read my post, I was using the nick names sarcastically. The point is that the two councilors were given the names for a trivial matter, while the other councilor, who purports to be a political reformer, is accepting a political job.

Poulin supporters have been very critical of Camara and Pereira in this matter (the blog post origin.) Do you disagree that the nick names that you hate so much came from some of those Poulin people. The one's who always demand "change." I do think change needs to occur, not just the people in office, but the practices that occur.

Further this councilor, while being gamefully employed and making a nice salary of 50k per year, is giving his condo to the bank. His mortgage is only 150k!

That's the point, all this focus on Camara, Pereira and Herren for nothing. Meanwhile the new councilor who throws stones is pulling the rug from under the taxpayer. The Poulin supporters seem to dislike it when the tables are turned and their candidate gets a nick name of his own.

I can't blame Herren for asking for help in this small domestic dispute. The family court is bias against fathers. Police have no authority to enforce visitation. Men pay handsomely and women can refuse to let them see their kids unless they pay thousands for a lawyer. These two councilors did nothing but ask some questions, big deal. Service to a constituent. Herren was not accused of any criminal doing.

As far as respect goes, it must be a two way street. How much respect did the state rep show by handing out a gov't job to a political friend when many in our city are unemployed. How much respect did the city councilor, who already makes 16k per year for that job, show the citizens of Fall River when he accepted it?

If after this explanation you still don't understand my point, or if the truth is too "negative" for you, then please skip my posts.

Anonymous said...

* that's anon 3:39am and 8:53am

Anonymous said...

Want proof that the Poulin camp created the nick names you hate so much? Look at this story.

http://www.heraldnews.com/news/x1643195643/City-Councilors-subject-of-police-ethics-inquiry

The comment by southenda is the first mention of these nick names.

If you doubt that southenda is a Poulin supporter look at his comments here.

http://www.heraldnews.com/news/x1009764193/Councilor-Poulin-takes-job-with-Rep-Sullivan

Anonymous said...

So now intervening with the police is considered constituent service!

If there is a court order for visitation, the police can enforce it. Women just can't deny visitation on their own.

Anonymous said...

Sure, now that you were called out you didn't write any of it right? Or no one truly understands what you were saying or what you meant to say? Boo hoo. You were asleep the whole time. Give me a break. Very weak. At least have the stones to accept some responsibility here. Cowardly.

Seems like you are the one that doesn't want to answer questions so spare me your bs arguments, the point is that those nicknames that everyone knows were created by Marc Munroe Dion at The Herald News need not be repeated. Actually we all know that Joe earned his nickname Ice during his playing days for being cool under pressure but you and others who haven't earned anything try to use it in a derogatory fashion.

As far as political jobs, Linda is perfectly qualified for her job, thank you very much, she is an outstanding investigator and Joe Camara did a good job too when he worked for Paul Walsh. And thanks for correcting me, I should've spoken up for Poulin too, I didn't vote for him but I may next election because I see him trying to work with people like Linda and that's how it is supposed to go, they are all supposed to try to work together.

I don't care what crazy supporters or detractors of certain candidates have to say, my point that you are dodging is that people like you are a cancer on this city with the namecalling and personal vendettas and attacks and no real substance when it comes to caring about any real issues facing the city. I have gotten involved with campaigns in the past of people I believed in, done neighborhood cleanups, anything I could instead of trying to be an armchair quarterback or in your case, armchair politician.

I don't see any of our city councilors disrespecting each other and calling each other names during the council meetings. Whatever candidate you support or don't support you need to take a page out of that book. I still don't respect what you have to say because I don't respect anyone that shows a clear personal vendetta against any councilor. Argue with them on their issues, say you don't like their position on a certain issue and why but don't result to calling people nasty names and digging into their personal lives. You are the type of people who think it is newsworthy for Linda's brother to get a picture in the paper with a sign that airs out a family dispute. It's disgusting.

I said I would refrain from calling names but I can't, your response only angered me more and showed me that you don't get it at all so trolls like you belong under bridges.

If you don't like any of these councilors then vote them out or put your own name on the ballot. And the police issue was and is none of your business, your sarcastic defense and sexist comments on it are unwanted and unappreciated.

Becoming a city councilor is something that has to be earned it is not something that people just get or are handed. If you can't figure that out then you are a real dummy. And these people do a job where they get calls at all times of day and night, it's a job and they get 16k for it and you seem jealous and think that is too much. If you aren't making at least 16k there is a good chance you are on some type of public assistance or lazy and don't want to work or wouldn't commit to getting more education.

Anonymous said...

Clearly reading for comprehension is not your strong suit. It must be nice to live in your delusional world where every leader is to be revered. I guess your Prozac is working. You may need to add a little Zyprexa to that regimen.

FYI- dim wit. I said that I didn't write the comment that included "lol." I never said I didn't write the rest. READ. All I can say about you is LOL!

You also are clueless about the family court system.

You are dead wrong about Dion. The Dion article is dated after the comment by southenda. You can read a calender, right?

As far as whether the police matter is any of my business. The police matter is the subject of this blog. I am not the only person with an opinion. Again, you are a dolt!

Anonymous said...

anon 11:45- all I can rely on is my personal experience with family court. After my divorce 3 years ago I was granted shared legal custody and visitation. 1.5 days during the week and every other weekend friday eve to sun eve. I had a very clearly written court order for visitation.

Ex decided on 3 occasions to not be home, not late, but gone, for my pick up.

All 3 times I went to the FRPD. They agreed to call her and, if she agreed to meet them to check the welfare of the children, there was nothing they could do but file a report. I was told that they sympathized, but it was a family court matter.

3 times I went to court. My lawyer charged $750 per court appearance plus office related paperwork at $250 per hour. Each time the court told her not to do it again. Some system.

Thankfully, she stopped doing it after the third trip.

50% shared time should be mandatory unless one parent is unfit. That's not the way it works for men in Massachusetts.

Anonymous said...

Some people can tell you all about prescription drugs as if they were a pharmacist, makes you wonder what they do in their free time. Besides that point, people don't know their Fall River history, calling Joe Camara "Ice" is no insult to him, people can try to use it that way but he made a name for himself on the b-ball court and there's no shame in his game. As far as what some classless people call Linda, it is absolutely a fact that Marc Dion started calling her that ugly nickname in columns many years back after she was alleged to have told a joke. Andrew "Dice" Clay was a comedian back in the day hence the nickname ascribed to her. It didn't happen just the other day.

You various people claim to be supporters of one candidate or another as I am too but you aren't doing your candidates any favors with all of the angry rants.

And for those of you that don't know Linda you can say what you want but she is a classy lady, I would bet dollars to donuts she was one of the first in line to congratulate Eric Poulin when he started working for Dave Sullivan and she ran against Sullivan 2 years ago. It is only some supporters who make the politics so personal and so ugly and nasty and this type of attitude isn't just ruining Fall River, it is ruining the country. Words get more and more heated until it leads to the type of violence and violent groups that we are seeing spring up around the country.

Anonymous said...

There has to be more to the story then what anon at 2:19 is saying. If anon at 2:19 is the same anon that left the comment at 1:19 then given how much anon was able to elaborate on certain drugs maybe the courts did feel that one of the parents was unfit. Perhaps they had reason to suspect anon of being a pill popper?

Anonymous said...

I KNOW ONE THING IM GOING TO BE FIRST IN LINE TO BUY SEASON TIX FOR SOUTHCOAST UNITED. I CANT WAIT FINALLY SOMETHING POSITIVE!!!

Anonymous said...

I agree that it would be positive and if Herren pulls it off then he deserves much praise and hopefully people still won't find reasons to hate. The Mayor and all of the City Council, their supporters and every other citizen of the community should be excited.

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Anonymous said...

She is indeed a class act!

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Anonymous said...

Ice and Dice baby.... Ice and dice baby.... Ice and Dice baby....... Ice and Dice baby.......... Ice and Dice baby.........

1st amendment biatches!!!

Anonymous said...

You're childish.

Anonymous said...

Perhaps, anon 4:46pm and 4:54pm, the person is a health care worker who is trained to identify the mentally ill.

You both speak like women who have used the family court system to impoverish and alienate your child's father.

You want to bring an end to all this negativity? Stop allowing the court system to remove fathers from the lives of their children! The world will be a better place. The every other weekend standard has to go.

Anonymous said...

WINNERS WIN!! HERREN AND MARTIN ARE BOTH WINNERS PERIOD.THERE IS NO DOUBT THAT THIS EXPANSION FRANCHISE WILL BE A WINNER.IN THE PAST THERE HAVE BEEN LOTS OF BIG IDEAS, FANCY DRAWINGS,AND LOTS OF PROMISES TO THE PEOPLE OF FALL RIVER THAT ULTIMATELY HAVE BEEN BROKEN THE THING I LIKE ABOUT THIS DEAL IT WAS SIGHNED AND SEALED BEFORE ANYONE KNEW ABOUT IT.THE WAY IT SHOULD BE ..SHOW ME DONT TELL ME!! INFACT IN THE PRESS RELEASE BY THE PBL THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS SAID THAT THE FALL RIVER GROUP HAS DONE ALL THE RIGHT THINGS TO MAKE IT HAPPEN.GOOD LUCK !!

Anonymous said...

Linda is classy and congratulatory? BS... She care about herself alone. Sure the DA gave her that job because of her merit. One hand washes the other.

Anonymous said...

You are wrong. She cares about more than herself and she is a very good investigator. You can dislike her if you want and not vote for her but you can't take those things away from her.

Anonymous said...

Anon 3:05, were those 'fancy drawings' in crayon?

Also, Linda Pereira looks like a female impersonator. It's that horrific wig, I'm just sayin'. That and the Adam's Apple...

Anonymous said...

She is a good person and a good councilor, sorry you're wrong.

The Dude said...

"Yeah, well that's just, like, your opinion, man."