Sunday, April 19, 2009

Fall River Fight

Have recent budget cuts hurt our public safety?

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The video runs just over 2 1/2 minutes but looks like it begins after the fight is already well underway. As the video plays you can hear yelling and screaming, shouting and profanity, but never once do you hear even the distant sound of a police car's siren.

Now, to be fair, it is my understanding that the police did show up and shorty after the video ends, but should they have been there sooner? Could they have been there sooner? The reality is that when something like this takes place we want a police officer to be right around the corner and that just isn't always possible. But with 37 police officers recently laid off because of budget cuts, I can't help but wonder if it could it be that our police department just doesn't have enough man power. With even a more severe cut in store for next year is what we see in this video going to become an even more common occurrence? Case in point, police were called to this same area Saturday night for another fight. If our police force is undermanned it might be time to start listening to the police scanner before heading out at night


Special thanks for the help I received in restoring this video!

145 comments:

New England Bites said...

This is such a load of crap. I live RIGHT THERE. It was scary to see this stupid fight taking place SECONDS from my apartment. Everyone in this city knows that the JJ's Hot Dogs area is unfortunately quite a trash pit. Uneducated thugs with nothing better to do like to hang around and cause trouble. This city is turning into a DUMP. According to Forbes.com, Fall River is one of the worst places to live right now. In exact words, it is the "hardest city to get by." I have always stuck up for Fall River, but I'm quickly losing steam. I'm sick of being jobless, I'm sick of seeing deadbeats everywhere you look, and I'm sick of supposed projects that are meant to "make Fall River a better place" never happening. We need to get off our asses and make something happen, or stop bitching about it and move out. Plain and simple.

Lefty said...

NEB,

Sorry to hear you so down. I wish I had some easy answers to fix our city's problems. However, I still think this is a great city! Hang in there!

Anonymous said...

I live on Columbia and a weekend night that doesn't go by that I hear "something" going on outside. Whether it be a drunk and a druggie fighting in the street at 3am, someone smashing Irene's windows to still a comforter set and walk, not run, up Canal st...or our car get broken into and a bag of sand getting poured on it....it is non stop. It is sad that the city that I have grown up in has turned into this. This video is crazy

Anonymous said...

Can the faces in that video be zoomed in on and identified by the police-?????????

Anonymous said...

This video is only the beginning. The summer is coming and incidents like this are going to be more common. The police have their hands full. Maybe Mayor Correia will finally see what a irresponsible thing he did when he laid off all those police officers (and Firemen). Fall River will never be the same and will only get worse. The good people will move out and the thugs will run the streets.

Anonymous said...

It's NOT just Fall River
New Bedford has gotten A LOT worse as well !
Even the once safe areas in the north end have gotten bad .
I ALWAYS hear gun shots , hear fighting, and sirens now .
I'm scared to walk down the street with my 1 year old even when it's daylight
it's scary !
When just 2 years ago my neighborhood was alright .
Gang activity is out of control here .
And like you said it's only getting worse now that warm weather has arrived .

Anonymous said...

I couldn't find a link where Forbes said Fall River was the worst city to live in ?

Anonymous said...

does anyone know what time this happened? I was at JJ's on Sat night but definitely didn't see any of this. After seeing this video, I will not be making a return trip to JJ's late night. I've been going there for years and love the place, but it's only a matter of time before someone gets killed. Sad. Just really sad.

Anonymous said...

bunch of hoodlums fight like girls tho

Anonymous said...

We are still bringing in out of town people to live in Fall River projects. The Housing Authority has an employee that goes to homeless shelters in other cities and offers them housing in Fall River.

Anonymous said...

I live in Fall River and yes it is going to get worse in the summer thanks to the mayor laying off the police. Maybe Correia should lay off his personal driver that he pays $70,000 per year to drive his fat ass around!

Anonymous said...

Anon, 2:12am, it happened Friday night (early Saturday morning hours.)

Maybe they were fighting over whether JJ's or Nick's was better!

Anonymous said...

Anon 4:17, you got that right. Run in, throw a punch, run away. Run in, punch, knock em down and then 5 guys start kicking. It's worse than watching Anderson Silva's last fight....

Anonymous said...

2:12 huh? Cool. I left around 1:50. Good timing.

Here's what i saw when I rolled up to JJ's. A drunk idiot, by himself, screaming obscenities at the house across the street (presumably at someone inside), and then he was gone.

Then when I left maybe a half hour or forty minutes later, I saw a crew of REALLY shady looking jerks, maybe 5 or 6 of em walking past JJ's. They didn't look right. Glad I bounced when I did. God I friggin hate these people, I wish they would all just drop dead and give us our **** city back.

New England Bites said...

Here is the Forbes link:

http://finance.yahoo.com/real-estate/article/106933/U.S.-Cities-Where-It's-Hardest-to-Get-By

It's more of a financial thing, but take that and pair it with the stupid fight at JJ's Hot Dogs and you got yourself an armpit of a city to live in. Pile of crap. That's all I have to say.

Anonymous said...

where else can this video be found? For some "strange" reason it has been removed from YouTube.com. Please contact me at bertbotelho67@yahoo.com with any video information.

Lefty said...

When kissnblarney contacted me she had already put the video on youtube and I linked directly to there. If she sends me the actual file I'll put it back up on the blog.

Anonymous said...

there so many racist grown woman in this town,people act like they don"t know the fact,chicken can't beef with hands use knife.

Anonymous said...

chicken can't beef with hands use knife? Does anybody out there know what this is supposed to mean?

Lefty said...

No.....

However I did go to Wendy's for lunch and ordered a burger and a chicken sandwich, could that be it?

WJB said...

I think he was trying to say that punks (chickens)who can't fight like men (beef) have to rely on weapons (knives) to handle their business. In other words, the guys brawling in the video are a bunch of Pu$$ies who would get curbstomped in a one on one fight. I concur with this assessment.

Anonymous said...

If anyone has the video please send it to

aviewfrombattleshipcove@gmail.com

Anonymous said...

THE VIDEO WILL BE ON WSAR.COM BY THE END OF THE DAY..THE HURRICANES GOT THE ORIGINAL VIDEO AND JUST WAITING TO PUT IT ON>>>>HURRICANES HIGHWAY HOME IS WHERE THE HOT STORIES HAPPEN!!

Lefty said...

Do I get paid for these advertisements?

Anonymous said...

first he smashes the bottle and charges at the kid in white...then after they beat the kid with that had the bottle he limps off and gets a pipe to hit the same kid in white...what a cheap shot!!! P.S. Why does he go after the one in white?

Anonymous said...

THE VIDEO WILL BE ON WSAR.COM BY THE END OF THE DAY..THE HURRICANES GOT THE ORIGINAL VIDEO AND JUST WAITING TO PUT IT ON>>>>HURRICANES HIGHWAY HOME IS WHERE THE HOT STORIES HAPPEN!!

3:42 PM, April 22, 2009

Of course it will mikey, your cousin lives across the street and gave Lefty the initial download. Real breaking news. Again no effort from our embarresment of a station. Ugh!

Anonymous said...

was mikey hiding in his cousin's closet?!

Anonymous said...

She took the video, duh. She does not have much of a life.

Anonymous said...

Did she call the police???????

Anonymous said...

Oh Keri go away..Lefty knows Hurricane had the video first..Lefty did you get charged for Hurricane mentioning that you had the video on your site on his show yesterday ..all of a sudden people are keeping score?? The bottom line is Hurricane has the video and has had it since sunday night.

Anonymous said...

I'm glad she took the video, but did she call 911 while she was filming it???

Anonymous said...

Sorry, not Keri. Just a person privy to the info.

Lefty said...

To be honest, kissnblarney contacted me on Sunday night and brought up the fight and that she had video posted on youtube. She told me that she had sent copies to the various news media including Mike Herren. She mentioned Herren by name but did not mention that he was her cousin. She said she hoped I would consider doing a blog post about the video but if Herren were to discuss it on his show she didn't want people to say he ripped me off.

After viewing I wrote the post. I also told kissnblarney that if anyone were to suggest that he were ripping me off I would set the record straight.

On Monday about 1/2 before show time, Mike Herren contacted me through the blog IM. He told me he was going to talk about the video but wanted me to know that it was his cousin who took the video and that she had sent it to him Sunday night. I told him just what I stated above, that if anyone were to suggest he was stealing my post I would set the record straight. He said that he would mention that the video could be found on A View From Battleship Cove. I thanked him for the mentions and said I was happy to provide an easy access point for his listeners to find it.

I was in and out between 3 and 6 but heard a good deal of his show. For the first hour he mentioned that the video could be found on A View From Battleship Cove, or by going to youtube. After 4 he told people the link could be found on WSAR and didn't mention the blog again.

From my conversation with kissnblarney, yes she did call the police. I appreciate her contacting me about the video. I don't think it is fair to say she doesn't have a life. She lives in an area where this crap is going on right outside her window. She had had enough and decided to tape it to bring some attention to it. Congrats to her because it worked!

As for keeping score, I don't call WSAR and yell A VIEW FROM BATTLESHIP COVE IS THE BEST BLOG IN FALL RIVER, yet I, and other bloggers have to deal with this nonsense all too often.

I have replaced the youtube link with one from the local news. If anyone has access to the original and would like to share it with me please sent it to aviewfrombattleshipcove@gmail.com

Anonymous said...

fights like this happen every night in the dumpy parts if this city. Just cause you capured it it on your cell you think it's big news? and herren trying to make it a big story? he is the worst offender.

Anonymous said...

I for one am glad she called 911 and filmed it, this just may help the police find out who they are and apprehend them.

and lefty thanks for setting the record straight.

Thanks kissnblarney.

Charlotte

Anonymous said...

Herren is quite the character.

The facts are the Lefty had a post on Sunday night, and Herren talked about it on his show on Monday. By definition, Hurricane did not break this story.

Hurricane was so concerned that he could be accused of ripping off the story from Lefty. For Christ's sake, the person who filmed the video is Herren's cousin.

Next time, if you don't want anyone to steal your precious thunder, don't give them a link to the news before you break the story.

The video was leaked to Lefty, and Herren plugged this blog a few times in the first hour as a way for his listeners to view the video while the geniuses at WSAR attempted to post the video on their website. Then the HTML gurus incorrectly created a link and left a whole bunch of sloppy html on the website too.

Once the video was on wsar.com, no more mentions of A View From Battleship Cove.

Then Youtube pulls the video and we get multiple CAPS comments about obnoxiously plugging the radio show.

Frankly, Lefty has been too gracious with this incident.

WJBloggah said...

How did I know this would degenerate into another pissing contest with the Hurricaine. Always got to have his name in everything.....What's sad is that on any given night, it could easily be Mike Herren suckerpunching people and getting his boys to jump in. God help him if THAT footage ever gets out....

Anonymous said...

The full video will be posted here soon!!!

Anonymous said...

Let me set the record straight… for everyone. On Friday night I was home because I was not feeling well, if that means that I do not have a life then guilty as charged. At approximately 12:30 a fight broke out at the academica. The fight was so bad that I could hear the punching from my apartment. The police came broke it up, did what they had to do and left. Soon after another fight broke out in front of JJ’s and ended. I had a feeling that it was going to be a crazy night, so I just watched and listened, when other fights started happening I grabbed my camera and started filming. The fight that everyone has seen is not the only fight that I have on film.
Many of my friends and family do not realize how bad the neighborhood is. Which is why I have been documenting it with my camera for some now. Not only with film but with pictures as well. When I noticed that the fight received no press coverage, being as bad as it was, I realized that no one, except the people involved and myself actually knew what happened and how everything went down. I was also concerned about all the cut backs and figured that is why the police had not shown up until after the fight had pretty much ended.
Sunday night I decided to send the video to different media outlets. The first person I called and sent the video to was to Michael. While I was online I went to this blog and noticed that Lefty was on line. I messaged him and you can read how that went in his comment above. What Lefty said is spot on to exactly what happened. I did clarify to Lefty that I had given it to Michael first and did not want anyone saying that he got it off of Lefty.
Lefty had the advantage of being able to post at any time. Unfortunately Michael does not have that luxury His show is from 3-6pm and that is when he could break, or more accurately report on the story. I broke the story because I RELEASED THE VIDEO.
The video was taken off of youtube because they have guidelines that say that you can not put anything up that shows people being attacked. I do think that some big wig noticed and reported it. I received an email that it was reported after 5,127 views apparently it is still a big draw because I got another 2,000 view after it was taken down.
I spoke on the radio that day, and I know that this blog was mentioned after 4pm.
With all this being said……I love Fall River. I was born and raised here. Moved away and moved back. I know I live in a neighborhood that is not the best. If our police do not have the support of the mayor then I personally feel that we should all do what we can. If that means I catch random fights and acts of violence I will do what I can to stop it. I used to say that the Highlands are our Beverly Hills but the South End is our Holly wood. It feels more like South Central LA at times, but only us as residents can take back our city. Anything else I can clear up?
Kissnblarney

Anonymous said...

WSAR has an advertisement that you can hear the news first on the radio. You don't have to wait until the 6pm TV newscasts, or wait until the next day to read it in the paper.

Similarly, Lefty as a blogger, had an advantage to post this video as soon as he received it. It is not Lefty's fault that Hurricane had a show from 3-6 the next day.

Lefty was gracious in saying that he would correct anyone who incorrectly thought that Hurricane ripped off Lefty.

Anonymous said...

Kissnblarney I respect and understand where you are coming from. You are not taking sides you are just helping YOUR story get out to where it needs to be. It would be great for you to get in contact with Lefty so he could post some more of your video's and blog about them. If you wanted you could even host your videos on a different site (not youtube), as you can see by the hits this is a very popular topic and you can make it even beter. Thank You for hearing me.

Anonymous said...

wj bloggah

you know what disgusts me . . .

the man crush that you have on mike herren. we already know you dont like the guy so you dont have to come on here and make false accusations about him everytime his name appears on a blog.

Anonymous said...

prove they are false accusations.

Lefty said...

I don't think it serves any purpose to bring up the same ol' accusations about Mike Herren.

I've talked to both Mike and his cousin about this story and appreciated the opportunity to discuss it with them.

Let's please stick to the subject of the post.

Anonymous said...

nobody noticed the knife that swung around.only the bottle n the pipe the person who recorded this was part one of the group. your tell me u recorded everything didn't see them two kids who swung the knife got in the jeep n left and let his friend suffer.

Anonymous said...

what color shirt does the person with the knife have on?

Anonymous said...

lefty, maybe not but it is the pot calling the kettle black.

Lefty said...

I'm not really sure what you mean Anon 2:25.

Anonymous said...

So glad I moved and will NEVER come back! I'll keep my self as far away from Fall River as I possibly can!!

Anonymous said...

whoever posted at 2:25 PM please tell us what you are talking about. What was the time in the video when you see the knife? were you there and you are saying that this is not the whole video? Please Respond

Anonymous said...

Funny how amy and her cousin were not an issue untill the CAPS publicity slut appeared. Really, either pay Lefty or #### off.

Anonymous said...

wow ....you would think that the hurricane and his cousin would be thanked for sharing the video??there are more posts on this blog about this than any story in months!!even after doing something well and working together the HATER nation on the blogs are still full of negativity.keep up the good work amy...and keep rocking and rolling hurricane

Anonymous said...

Please don't generalize all bloggers or commentors as HATERS not all comments were
derogatory. People are entitled to their opinions either way.

Thanks
Charlotte

Anonymous said...

its over the top negativity cant the bloggers see that...anything good ,anyone who is popular ,rich,etc is always no good!!!!theres a conspiracy behind every corner,and the man sticking it to us every chance he gets...enough already!!! the bloggers have to be much more objective and honest with their product if they were half as critical of each other as they are with others the blogs would be a better place to exchange ideas and opinions.right now however they are a place of personal attacks,cheap shots,and an echo chamber for the perpetually annoyed.

Anonymous said...

hmm, I am rich and popular.

Charlotte

Anonymous said...

I can't believe that it took that long for the cops to get there. Maybe the Mayor should look at whats happening in this city. I think that Fall River is a great place to live.

Anonymous said...

"I have seen neighborhoods change from Portuguese, Fench, Irish, Lebonese enclaves that were known more for the church which its residents attended, rather than its street signs." I don't know why but this stuck with me all day. Maybe its just a breakdown of society in general.

www.bragabridge.blogspot.com

Anonymous said...

do you know what I've lived in Fall River all my life..grew up in a project(ohh thats so bad..NOT im talking going back to the 70's - 80's)everyone thought that we were thrash...we had our problems but u know what never like this day and age I am happily to say I am married w/the same man I meet in the projects own my own home and have 2 beautiful children 1 in college and the other @ DURFEE ohhh know that another bad point(NOT)I am a tax payer and all I can say is that we the city of fall river open our arms and let all this trash come in because we need welfare $ if we keep doing this we are going to have family coming in from GOD knows where and we are not safe...does it have something to do W/city cuts absolutely I thing there is $ this current administration choses to use it differently....

Anonymous said...

its all the punks from boston comin down thats maken the city bad...fights like that aint shit happens all the time....

Anonymous said...

TOPIC AT HAND: Yes, budget cuts have hurt public safety in our city. But the ROOT is our unacceptably high dropout rate (#2 in the state) which gives these young adults a sense of desperation and no future.
What fascinates me is the response to this posting on safety and violence (59 at this time), vs. 4 responses on the Fall River Community blog, addressing the dropout rate.
Until that's substantively addressed, this community is going to continue in a downward spiral...

Faye Musselman said...

Such a big deal about this street fight. Surely FR has had plenty of them that were never captured on film. I put it to you this is more common than an anomaly. What's in the video happens all over America frequently. What would have made it unique would have been dead victims, particularly innocent victims with a slow response time by FRPD. Then it WOULD be a story, worthy of regional and national interest - with the backstory of the economy.

For the Anons posting about the influx of bad people coming into FR - you don't know if they were local residents or not. Unless the police subsequently tracked and identified and arrested those who broke the law. Has anyone been arrested as a result of the video evidence? I don't know. Haven't followed it that closely.

But in regards to Fall River....people are attracted to communities where:
1. There are jobs.
2. There are good schools.
3. Affordable housing.
4. Good police and fire departments with good response times. Low crime rates.
5. Reasonable property tax and other taxes.

Fall River is losing all of that. At the same time there are pockets of people who still care, who still try to make a difference. Unfortunately, decades have gone by with the kind of pockets of people who have lost almost all battles fought.

In the 1920's when the mills failed and "the haves" moved out, the working class stayed...they stayed because they were rooted to Fall River through community - the community of their ethnic origins, their churches, their work ethic and ties to family. Those subsequent generations moved out and as FR continued to decline in economic development, population and civic pride, a different element took hold. For the past 20 years, you have been seeing the residual effect. Entitlements breed a sense of entitlement.

And now we have one of the worse economic crises since the 1930's. Fall River is primed for the worst of the worst under such a scenario.

So what's the answer: ELECT PEOPLE WHO ARE COMMITTED VISIONARIES, HONEST AND POSSESSED OF AN ABILITY TO BRING ABOUT SWEEPING CHANGES.

For the majority of FR's voting age population, there is a general malaise if not a complete disregard for the city's future. They don't vote. This makes it easy for the same kind of government leadership to get elected and continue with the circle of "life" in Fall River.

As a frequent visitor to Fall River, I still love the City, and back in the 70's and 80's I would have wanted to live there. Not now. Maybe in Swansea or Little Compton, but not Fall River.

Instead of seeking just a Mayor, form a coalition. A "team" determined to take over all of City Hall elected officials. Have a strategic political plan - a 5-year plan if necessary, working with that primary goal. And get it done.

For those of you who still love and live in Fall River and work to make it better, even if your efforts yield no results - I salute you. Look to your peers, meet, organize, come up with a plan to take over the City.

Make Fall River what it could and should be.

bongwater said...

So first blog post of my life and where to start. classic case of race diff in this city. If you listen at the end of the video you can hear f**ck you whit boy asian boys ni**a. now how the fight started i have no clue but my friend was a nicks hot dogs and we it started he call the cops too i would belive that someone would call the cops in that area i use to live in the blue house across the street from jjs and people in that area where always calling the cops but back to the topic of this blog the city does not care about you right now the state as well hell cigs are $7.50 a pack and going up again in a month by mid summer $10.00 a pack watch money is on there mind lets see when it comes to makeing money lets just lay off the people who protect us ok now what where is all that money must be nice to be mayor well while we are on the subject of money just befor winter 08 they spent $100.000 on getting rid of the rat problem in fall river what a waste of money it cold in the winter a rat will go and hide all winter they will be back you will see. if it true that there where only 10 cops on that night what the fuck is our city smokeing well 80% pot people smoke pot 50% smoke crack 25% dope 40% pills mix all that with a little bit of alcohol and you have what this citty is welcome to fall river do me a favor call the cops and order a pizza just wait and see how comes first good night i'm done with this rant

Anonymous said...

> I live 2 secs away from where that fight was... I can't believe I have to pay taxes to live in the same city as trash like that. Those people are glad I wasn't driving.
> I would have run everyone of them down...reversed and done it again
> how can a city progress, nevermind a planet progress, with creatures like that
> time for some "Quality Cleansing".
> get rid of the walmarts and the dollar stores. get some jobs that require education back in the city. Anyone here remember when it wasn't dangerous to be outside at night? I'm only in my 20s and I remember that. These are the people we should be sending to die in the middle east. I know it sounds bad but we need a new "Hitler".

Anonymous said...

@bongwater:

You might want to lay off the pipe for a while. That was one hilarious run on sentence. Notice the dots I use at the end of a group of words? They help your ideas flow coherently. You should try them sometime!

Anonymous said...

You morons from Faw Riva are proud of this kind of behavior. I have lived in this shithole for about ten years, and I've hated every moment, because of losers who actually defend this city. Luckily, I live in a neighborhood where these wiggers/ghetto wannabees do not live. All of you idiots who think Faw Riva is so great must be friends of these thug wannabees in the video.

Lefty said...

I would argue that those of us who think Fall River is great are able to see past the city's problems and look upon its potential.

You've lived here for 10 years and hated every minute? I think I'd reconsider who the moron is here.

There is no doubt the city has issues but if you don't feel there is anything positive here than you should leave.

Anonymous said...

Do you pay to live here or does the state?

Lefty said...

I'm not sure if that is directed at me or if it even matters, but I will say that if the state was paying me to live in Fall River I'd have more time to devote to the blog.

Biscuits McGillicuddy said...

Lefty the Faw Riva Lova: I pay to live here. I am not on welfare or any other type of public assistance. I have a full time job, unlike you and most residents of Faw Riva. I do like the neighborhood I live in, because there are no problems here. Go two or three blocks in either direction, and it's a different story. Luckily, the problems don't come over to my area. Eat shit and die you ghetto wannabee.

Anonymous said...

The question was posed to anon 12:48 who stays in fall river for 10 years but thinks anyone else who lives here is a moron.

I wanted to know why they can't leave or move from there area where they live. Is it because of a state check? There are plenty of other apartments for rent in fall river.

What is stopping you from leaving ?

Anonymous said...

Any new news about the fight? More footage would be GREAT!!!

AppreciateThe508 said...

Our City needs a vigilante superhero. Either that, or everyone of those people in the video should be hung at battleship cove to send a message. Pathetic wastes of oxygen I say. All of them. Including the screechy female for being a part of such a disgusting crowd. In 10 years half of that crew will be incarcerated, and the other half will be 30 year old collar popping douche-bags trying to "mack it" at "da club" on "weed guy". Go do something else with your time that proves your worth like, "cruizin da ave guy", or "chillin' at d n'd guy". Fucking useless shit ruining a once great and prosperous city. I'm rambling... peace.

Anonymous said...

I'm sure most of them have already been in JAIL!!!

Anonymous said...

LET the HURRICANE and the HOOLIGANS loose on these fools they will set them straight!!Trust me you dont want to be on the wrong end of those characters.You ask for vigillantes i give you the Hurricane

Anonymous said...

Hurricane ain't going to do S*** these days, he's fat come on now!?!

Anonymous said...

good thing the sterile news reported this three days after it happened...edit-ho lisa stratton must of been busy

Anonymous said...

I think all you Fall River assholes can go jump off the Mount Hope Bridge without a life jacket. You're all losers and will never go anywhere in your miserable, pathetic, ebonics-speaking, ghetto-living, wigger-wannabee-acting lives. Killing yourselves will better this society greatly.

It's hilarious that Rule #4 states that we aren't allowed to call people "thugs, crooks, druggies, etc." Why not? Truth about Fall River hurts, don't it?

Allow us to expose the truth about all the losers who live in Fall River and make it worse than it already is.

Anonymous said...

Just take a look at the compostion of the city's new elementary schools if you want to know what's coming into town. This is a group of unsocialized animals who haven't had their basic needs met by their gang-banga parents. Principals and teachers are afraid of these young angry parents and the kids are getting away with violence in the schools. This city is down lower than low. We have nothing to offer on the good side to offset this urban blight. What have we got, the Battleship? Lizzie Museum? We got no jobs, no education, no theater, no nuttin.

Anonymous said...

All I see in this video is a bunch of losers without a future. Maybe they were reinacting a scene from the West Side Story. It's sad, but fools like this bring down the morale of the city.

Anonymous said...

funny how annonymous has all the answers. for those that heard of the fight at JJ's i want you all to know that not all of them are thugs,or junkies as was stated.sometimes guys fight after they just left a club and probably were drunk and there was a reason among themselves for why it happened.someone commented in the herald news that anyone who knows something should come forward..lol..right.a lot of people live by the code of the streets and thats loyalty and to keep your mouth SHUT. if not then there would be more violence then you can imagine.most people will protect their family with their info and keep it to themselves.

Anonymous said...

It's always nice to have an optimistic attitude that Fall River is going to get better. However at the same time you are fooling yourself if you think that it's ever going to happen in your lifetime. People get One life. ONE! So take your one life and go to a nice city with nice people and enjoy yourself. Why the hell would anyone stay in this rat hole? Save your pennies and get out Now. It's only going to keep getting worse. You will look back at how you wasted your entire life in a place like this instead of being in a nice city that can actually make you happy. Bottom line is that anyone who stays in Fall River might be short on IQ points.

Anonymous said...

It not that people don't have lives.if your looking to have fun your good guy college student just coming out the club.looking for something eat and you live in racist fall river.you run in to racist assholes while eating with two knifes can't "just fight with hands u know old school" have to commit crimes to make a name for themselves an then LEAVE right after you do you dirt n not face the consequences N leave your friends to suffer "DANNY T" you should've just fought like men and YOUS GUYS wouldve prevented this an here is another thing If you was black an you parked your car in the middle of S.MAIN st you wouldve got beat up like RODNEY KING BY the copS

Anonymous said...

Fall River should be blown up and removed from the map. I'm sick and tired of you idiots coming on here defending this sewer we call Fall River. As I said above, go jump off the Mount Hope Bridge you disgusting fat ass wigger portugees.

Anonymous said...

I found this page from WSAR's page. It said the whole story was here.... Where is the story its just people pointing and clearing things up. What caused this fight and isnt the hot dog place responsible for having Police detail around to control their customers? I dont live in such a bad area I have seen crap over here but not ever like that. I didnt think FR was so bad I have lived here all my life and I guess you see what you put your self around so if you see alot of this stuff happen stop putting ur self around it.

Anonymous said...

You people are a bunch of insulting scumbags. I've lived in Fall River since I was 12 years old and believe it or not, I actually have a job--make that two of them. I don't cheat other people, I don't try to beat them up or rob them and I'm not living in a project so that I get cheaper rent. I do not appreciate all of you lumping me and those like me in the same category as these obnoxious punks. Most of the people in Fall River are hard working people who just want to take care of their families. Every city has trouble and using this fight as an excuse to insult all of the people in this city is ridiculous and just plain rude.

Anonymous said...

I live in Fall River. I moved from Roxbury. This city isnt bad, just some punks who think they live in the hood. I mean, damn, some of these boys would wet their pants walking through the rox, dot, mattapan and so on.

Anonymous said...

you all know this was so funny that a bunch of guy's can't chat like men but they act like boy by crying and fighting like jerks .
it didn't solve nothing

Anonymous said...

The difference is if you live in Boston, you have options. Here we have nuthin. At least there is stuff to do, culture,arts, Boston Latin School,etc. Here we just suck.

I agree these half ass wangstas wouldn't last a day in the real projects.

Anonymous said...

This video was taken and posted for exploitive purposes. A few drunk guys brawling after hours.....alert the media! Our local radio station has been hijacked by children and morons. Too bad that the Karams are allowing this to happen.

Anonymous said...

I know someone who lives in the area. They said a fight started at the Academica after a party and was broken up by the police. After about a half hour cars returned and another started at JJ's. Fights happen after drinking but we used to have the police to response immediately. Now people are being stabbed and shot before they can respond. I would worry more about the stores that are being held up with guns and knives. My kids are not on the streets at 2am but they are out at donut dunkins at 7pm.

Anonymous said...

They are not "wangstas" they are WIGGERS. Get it right.

I do agree that if these wiggers walked through Mattapan, Dorchester, etc., they would shit their pants. These wiggers in dirty ass Faw Riva don't know what "hood" really is.

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Anonymous said...

free advertising again lefty

Lefty said...

Thanks!

Anonymous said...

i just found this website 1 week ago i check it everyday and its the same old stuff very boring!!!!! will not be on here again!!!!!

Anonymous said...

oh and who the hell is Lefty is everyone suppose to know him??????

shamrock said...

What does that mean?

Anonymous said...

it means just what it says who is lefty??

shamrock said...

Nice to see you sticking to your promise not to return.

Anonymous said...

couldnt resist helping an illerate

Anonymous said...

Keep exposing the real truth about Fall River trash. I hope all those stupid wiggers kill each other. That way, we have less welfare-collecting, project living, drug dealing, gang banging wannabees to deal with. I hope the assclowns in the video kill each other next time. Good riddance to those fucking losers.

Anonymous said...

There will be new losers to take their place. Just get the hell out of town. Why continue to live in a place that you hate and that you will continue to hate until the day you die. Fall River is never going to make you happy. So why on earth would you continue to have any loyalty towards this dump? What has it ever done for you? Pack your bags and go to a place where you can be happy today!

Anonymous said...

i don't' understand why people keep blaming things on the city, when it's stupid people that causes all the problems. get rid of the gangster wannabes and drug addicts, and FR wouldn't be that bad of a place to live.

Anonymous said...

To the poster above. Good Luck on making that happen. Have fun in your little city of doom. It's not going to get any better. Don't fool yourself into thinking that it is.

Anonymous said...

this place would still be a dive there is no place to go here you always have to go out of f. r. for food and entertainment disgusting place

Anonymous said...

Fall River, outside of the Highlands neighberhood, is as big a dump as I have ever seen..

And its only going to get worse..much worse, as more Negroes and Puerto Ricans move here.

What you have is foul combination of species that should have stayed where they came from..but its too late to do anything about it now..

Meanwhile, you have an administration in Government Center that can't understand how to create a tax base to support the quality of life that many people want here.

I've met some good and decent people in this city..but the minute I've saved enough cash, I'm out of this Mafia dominated berg as fast as I can load up a U-Haul.

Anonymous said...

I have to ask one question -

How is this people from out of town's fault when the kid involved is Portugese?

Ka$hMaN of DOWN WITH LNG made a rap tune about this anyone have the link?

Mike P said...

I live in the highlands and it's not that bad at all. Most of the people I know and associate with in this city are also, not that bad. Yes I go to Durfee, but does that make me dumb? No, I'm going to a four year college next year and getting the hell out of this city. I've been living here since I was born and have seen the city slip into despair over the years. It's sad because my family has been in this city for a while and now even my parents have told me they plan on moving when I graduate. It's sad to see this once prolific city turn into the trash it is today. Idk...

WJBloggah said...

To Anon 3:25pm:
"William Sem" & "Samban Bo", yup those are good solid Portugese names. And I'm sure tons of Portguese gangs refer to themselves as "Asian Boyz, Ni**a!", which can clearly be heard in the video. Keep in mind, these boyz are the ones who were looking to rob the Tavares kid......

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
LET the HURRICANE and the HOOLIGANS loose on these fools they will set them straight!!Trust me you dont want to be on the wrong end of those characters.You ask for vigillantes i give you the Hurricane

6:03 PM, April 24, 2009

Anonymous said...

So what you're saying is that Tavares is a solid Fall River kid and it's the "Asian Boys" fault he is in trouble?

I guess I'm crazy, I thought Tavares was as much of a worthless loser as the "foreigners".

Oh, and Mike P., if you're a senior at Durfee this city was already a toilet when you were born. Unless you're one of those 23 year old seniors.

WJBloggah said...

No don't get me wrong, they're ALL scumbags, just don't try to blame this on the Portugese is all I'm saying....

Anonymous said...

this will get a LOT OF ATTENTION butthe truth hurts they say in the 70's this place was cool i am in my 60's then a mayor vivieros let all these portuguese people in and all of a sudden our parks were destroyed the ice skating rink at kennedy park they nwould just tear it up for no reason 'THEY R ALL ANIMALS" get them the hell out iof here!!!!!!! i personally witnessed a lot of vandalism and then they would laugh and go on to the next park and destroy the playground all portugues boys are "MAMA'S boys they have no respect no class and their parents stick up for them even when they r wrong!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

if we were to go to their country you would NOT find signs in english like we do for them they take our jobs and take over the city the gates near the battleship what the hell is that for? we could have spent that money on fixing roads dont you think? and another thing the elected officials that manage the money for f.river are not qualified to do so thats why things are so screwed up they dont know how to manage money

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Lefty said...

Okay, Fall River has got its troubles. I can understand commentors knocking the city. Things are run down, there are no jobs, and the city is broke. But, this has just gotten silly. To blame this issue on any ethnic group borders on hillarious. This is not an Asian problem or a African American problem or a Portuguese problem.

I'm no expert but I think it's plain that Fall River's issues are socio-economic. There are not jobs, our workforce is under-educated, companies won't consider moving here because of it.

A poor city invites problems with drugs and crime and vandalism and gangs.

Some, who have the ability move away to get away from these issues. Some can't, and some chose to stay because this is home and they hope things can be changed for the better.

If you're someone in that last catagory, do what you can to make that change. Sweep in front of your house, talk to your neighbors, use your porch and make it known that you're not going to hide indoors. Get involved in your children's education and push them to go on to college because that will give them a chance at a better future and maybe a better future for the city. Get involved with our local leadership, ask questions, make them accountable, and vote for those who represent the future you want for your home.

Let's keep the comments constructive and respectful.

Thanks!

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Lefty said...

Exposing,

I'm sorry you feel the way you do. My best advice is to either work to improve the city or find a way to leave. Anything else seems pointless.

As for your 'freedom of speech', if you feel you cannot express your opinions here I would urge you to start your own blog. I wish you much luck with that endeavor.

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Anonymous said...

I live right around the corner from jj"s. you can actually see my house in the video. this city has become increasingly more violent since i moved here in the 80's. however, i am not goint to let an out of hand pissing match between a bunch of punk kids, run me out of the city. its time that fall river took back their city and stop letting people crap all over us. fall river is not bad, its these delinquent pricks that ruin it for everyone.

Anonymous said...

A city is only as good as the people in it. Harlem or Compton might be a nice place to live too if it wern't for the bad people there. But guess what? It's not nice and it's because of the people. As long as bad people are around then It's considered a bad city.

These punk kids are reproducing and having punk kids of their own. In another 20 years you will be begging to have the Fall River of today back. Take off the blinders, It's not going to get better. It's only going to get much worse. But if you want to stick around and see for yourself, you are more than welcome to. I will be far away where the nice people live.

Anonymous said...

this blog is a JOKE no one is telling the truth bc they are afraid to be politically incorrect truth be told this place is a dive and always will be a bunch of clowns running it by the way does the mayor have a high school education? just wondering!!!and the other officials are afraid to say the truth!!!!

Anonymous said...

The reason nobody is telling the truth is because the blog administrator (who probably works for the Mayor) is deleting any and all comments that tell the truth. God forbid someone says how things really are.

Anonymous said...

we are the "We"ll Try " city this is so EMBARASSING!!!!!!!!!!!! just needed to make that statement

Anonymous said...

yes it should be "The taking care of "business" city or the" We will conquer " or thr "Getting it done city" city ANYTHING but what we have now

Anonymous said...

I always laughed when I heard the city motto is "WE'll TRY". It sounds like the 5 year old kid who tells his Mom that he'll eat his vegatables for now on. "I'll TRY" he says. Not a whole lot of confidence in that statement. Perhaps the cigarette smoker who is warned to stop smoking for his own good. Well.. "I'LL TRY".

What a joke! The whole city is a joke and the city Motto pretty much describes the confidence level of city hall when it comes to improving things. "WE"LL TRY". LOL. Yeah I'm going to try to make 10 Million Dollars next year too. I don't think my chances of doing that are any better than Fall River's chances of future success. But I guess, maybe, possibly, perhaps "WE'LL TRY". HAHAHAHAHA

Anonymous said...

I have to thank the City of Fall River for giving me the inspiration to go to law school. Thank you, Fall River. Years ago, I was getting out of my car on S.Main Street when a former boyfriend, who was following me, got out of his car and pointed a loaded gun at my face. Lucky for me, I didn't get shot. I left and went to the police station to report the "assault". When I got there and explained my story to the cops, all they told me was "that's not an assault" and that they "couldn't do anything for me unless I was actually shot"? Did the idea of investigating into whether or not my ex had a license to carry a firearm ever occur to them???? That wasn't an assault?? I too have always laughed about the "We'll try" motto...they really mean it!

Exposing The Truth said...

How come other negative comments about Faw Riva are being posted but not the ones I post? Talk about favoritism and corruption. Hey Lefty, did you learn that from "yo bois in Gubbermint Centah?"

Lefty said...

The reason your comments were not published is I found them objectionable. I deleted your previous comments for the same reason.

You're more than welcome to share your opinion, provided you can make your points without resorting to crude remarks or vulgar language.

Anonymous said...

the girl that was followed by an ex boyfriend man i feel for her the motto "we'll try" ha !!!! they didn't try at all !!!!! god bless you honey hope your fine now

Anonymous said...

Lefty,
It is amazing that there are so many ignorant people in this city using such crass descriptions of people as if they were made superior by God for the color of their skin or their background. What is most hilarious is that most of these bigots posting here can not even spell the names of the groups they are deriding, yet they have the audacity to try and blame the city's problems on these ethnic groups. Perhaps the fact that this blog shows how many ignorant bigots we have explains why we have so many problems. You can't have this many bigots and ignorance being trumpeted and wonder why we have problems can you?
My advice to you lefty is to cut out these racist comments as they reflect on your willingness to keep them here and make this not a site where we can improve the city but a palce were the ignorant will breed their leachery. Or is the view from Battleship Cove one that is tainted?

Lefty said...

Anon 11:24,

I appreciate your comment, but a few things to keep in mind:

1. We have no way of knowing how many people are leaving comments. One or two active posters can put up a lot of comments.

2. My willingness to let such comments stand is an effort by me to let people express their opinions and not hide the fact that such opinions exist.

3. If we want to improve our city we can't deny our problems and we can't deny the intolerance of some. These are things that must be overcome but if I were to try to ignore them or sugarcoat them, well that would be the tainted view.

Anonymous said...

to the person or persons that claim people on this site are bigots well guess what this person IS IN DENIAL and by the way everything here IS spelled correctly!!!!!!!!!!!

thank you

Anonymous said...

hey what do you think about the guy that fell off a city truck and is is critical condition yes the truck hit a groove in the road and he fell off my heart and prayers go out to the family!!!!

Anonymous said...

"to the person or persons that claim people on this site are bigots well guess what this person IS IN DENIAL and by the way everything here IS spelled correctly!!!!!!!!!!!

thank you"

Denial of the existence of bigots or that the opinions of bigots are anything but a perfect example of their being no lifeguard in the genepool...
bless you!

Anonymous said...

All I know is what I have personally seen the destruction of city property for no apparent reason . time and time again it has been done much to the delight of the people who were doing it and YES it was done by the portugeuse kids all the other kids never did anything like that . seeing is believing. they also used to beat kidsup for no reason other than pure joy it went on all the time I am a street person obviously you knownothing about life just books so sad!!!!! learn before you speak about which you know nothing!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

So you're saying that it's only the Portuguese kids who are destroying personal property in Fall River?

Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

I drive school buses for a living buddy and guess what? The kids who are acting up and showing no respect for anyone in this city come from all backgrounds. It seems to me that you'd actually better be the one who learns what he's talking about. Sheesh.

Anonymous said...

i did not say they were the only ones i said this is what i personally have witnessed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

New England Bites said...

As the weather gets warmer and I leave my windows open more and more, I can hear the sounds of idiots screaming outside my apartment every night. Black, white - it doesn't matter. They're all idiots. F this and F that. I never use that word nor do I want it being screamed outside at 2 a.m. It's ridiculous! My sister and I used to play outside a lot when we were kids. Now, I won't even walk home from the garage a few streets away because I don't want to be seen carrying my purse on the street. It is really, really awful. I've never been around this sort of thing and I've lived here all of my life. Now these deadbeats are starting to ruin my neighborhood. What the Hell? As soon as I find a job (which I sure as Hell won't find in this trash pit of a city) I am going to leave, and hopefully take my parents with me. We won't go far as we have family here, but Somerset/Swansea or Westport/Dartmouth, here we come. I'd even love Tiverton because there is a lot of land and space, a.k.a., peace and quiet. I have no desire to stay in this dump town any longer.

New England Bites said...

Lefty,

Good for you moderating comments! I do it all the time, starting with Day 1 of my site. Yes, it turns some people off, but I'm not worried about the amount of comments I get. If people really want to be heard, they'll leave a comment. Other than that, it keeps a lot of morons at bay. I've actually only had to delete one or two comments in the two years that we have been up because they were spam.

Anonymous said...

I was driving to the wonderful Sam's bakery (just one of the great food shops that fall river has to offer at great prices) the other day when I noticed all of these "shady" people on the ave. Also under-cover cops busting what looked like a drug deal, then a car accident then they got someone speeding. This all happened going to the bakery and back. This is a great city and it has alot to offer but it is true that people are ruining it. Enjoy the city and the food!

Anonymous said...

Anon 5:41 a.m.--sorry if I misread what you wrote. I know that there is a large percentage of Portuguese in Fall River so it makes sense that you'd see a lot of Portuguese kids acting up. I thought you meant it was ONLY Portuguese kids and that's just not so. I see kids from all backgrounds acting up and causing trouble which I why had to laugh. The funny think is that all of the parents are shocked when they learn that their precious darlings are acting up--no punishment at all. It's your fault somehow. Crazy.

Anonymous said...

to anon 7:39 thats alright i do the same thing all the time i just wish everyone would respect themselves and others AND the city they live in. it would be so much nicer spread love all around instead of hate!!

Anonymous said...

I agree but unfortunately, spreading the love is the reason why we have so many out of control kids.

Anonymous said...

The portuguese are to blame with their ignorance. Learn English greenhorne! Their all slime and should be sent back to Portugal. We also need to get these same geenorn politicians out of office. Fuck FRPD htey dont do shit.